These are great, Paul. Love Hoagland.
Have you read his book of essays? Very great.
The earlier clip of Hoagland where he talks about the models of poetry as they are found as authentic experiences with language on warning stickers, etc., is fantastic.
This one, Bob? Link: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=DZSbCfM2cvs
That's the one, PV.
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